A clarification of sort

[Nick Krygier]

This is not a self-improvement website. This is not a website where you improve who you are and become the superior man.

Our reality is shaped by the language that we use and to associate yourself with a movement of self-improvement can be very detrimental to your growth. You don't have to improve anything. There are a thousand subconscious beliefs that the word implies and when we associate ourselves with it be wary!

Your just here. We're learning. There's nothing to improve. It's simply experimentation and the sensory experience of different results then one might be accustomed to.

[tonatiuh8]

Oh Shit I'm shocked!!!

You may have just hit something big. Can you explain this a bit better?

[SilverStreak]

lol. I perfectly know the idea you're getting across, however think you're putting too much emphasis on words to have that power

The idea of this site is based in self-improvement and that is a good thing. However, just like anything else self-improvement can become addicting and even sidetracking; you can get so wrapped up in the idea you want to try and improve things that you never really stop and relax and be truly satisfied with yourself. You can lose the ability to sit back and smell the roses So what he's trying to start is a mentality shift from the idea of this constant development to something little more adjustable if that makes sense


I get that right, there?

[Tom Church]

Nick, I follow you completely with this one. I began to wonder this only a couple of months ago, when I caught myself telling people that I enjoyed self-development. Yet, I didn't quite know exactly what I meant by this.

What was I improving? To say you're improving your lifestyle will get you no where. You might read a bit more, gym some, laugh some and eat some more, but without the true desire, these attempts will fail.

The greatest improvements are made when I focus on one thing. When it turns into a burning obsession, and I remain dedicated until the goal is fulfilled. By achieving this one thing, gaining this one result, other areas in my life improve as a side effect. And I think it's this, that the forum is for. It just so happens that each of us have different desires, ambitions and goals, and so we can't make it specific to one thing such as body building, but rather, we generalise it. The 'Self Improvement' concept of this forum is the agglomeration of all our individual passions and desires. Not the other way around.

[Nick Krygier]

Yeah silverstreak thanks for clarifying it for me, I don't always write with my point clearly stated. But I do disagree with the statement that you said that you said you disagree with the power that I think the words have. In some respect I agree with you because I think words mean nothing. But also, I believe the words we choose come from somewhere and I think they tell us a great deal about ourselves which means something. If we change our words then we can change our old patterns that inhibit us. When you use a word it simply expresses who you are and when you use a different word it stimulates change by giving you an awareness that you previously didn't have.

[SilverStreak]

True, but if you're going to switch up the words used you have a concise thing to replace it with - not a paragraph And not saying it's on you, as I can't really come up with something short and sweet, but a few words sometimes speak louder than paragraphs, y'know?

And Tom, I very much agree/feel with you there too

[Nick Krygier]

Indeed they do

[GrannySnatcher]

Originally Posted by SilverStreak

lol. I perfectly know the idea you're getting across, however think you're putting too much emphasis on words to have that power

alex, you are confusing the message nick is trying to bring across. what he is preaching with respect to vocabulary choice here is a concept in confucian philosophy ... the basic idea is that the language we utilise has a central and definitive role in determining our way of seeing the world.

thus, much like "you are what you eat", what we say makes us who we are.

makke no mistake, this is an important distinction bro. there is a very marked difference between "i want to be amazing at futbal (or with girls, whatever )" and "i am good at futbal; i want to be better."

the one assumes that i am not good to begin wiht, while the other establishes and recognizes the fact that i am good and that i want to improve.

[Nick Krygier]

I love it when people explain exactly whats on my mind in terms that everyone can understand lol. It makes life so much easier for me

[GrannySnatcher]

hah. yeah nick. but I gotta say, the concept is very true man. much love to eastern philosophical tradition.

[SilverStreak]

Originally Posted by GrannySnatcher

alex, you are confusing the message nick is trying to bring across. what he is preaching with respect to vocabulary choice here is a concept in confucian philosophy ... the basic idea is that the language we utilise has a central and definitive role in determining our way of seeing the world.

thus, much like "you are what you eat", what we say makes us who we are.

makke no mistake, this is an important distinction bro. there is a very marked difference between "i want to be amazing at futbal (or with girls, whatever )" and "i am good at futbal; i want to be better."

the one assumes that i am not good to begin wiht, while the other establishes and recognizes the fact that i am good and that i want to improve.

Lol. That's EXACTLY what I meant.

And to my support, he wanted us to help him get it off his chest in more understandable ways, so I thought that was part-necessary

But also, it's just that we slightly differ in opinions there. hah - no harm in that.