Why Cocky/Funny Is Destroying Your Chances With Women.

[Wicked]

Why Cocky/Funny Is Destroying Your Chances With Women

If you are on the Internet seeking dating advice, chances are good that you have come across a concept called cocky/funny. About 6 years ago, a gentleman started writing countless articles and newsletters promoting the concept of cocky/funny.

Like you, I was excited about it. It was a novel concept that seemed interesting and seemed to get a reaction out of people. It also seemed to piss off quite a few women at the same time. Over the years, I ran into a lot of guys whose chances with women were being destroyed by cocky/funny as it was being taught.

If you’re reading this right now, you may be one of those guys who is struggling to make cocky/funny work for you. If you have been at it for a while, chances are good, you’ve upset and insulted your fair share of women in the past year.

Thus, once and for all, I am going to break down HOW cocky/funny is ruining your chances with women and how you can go about fixing it, and how you can APPLY it in a way that is effective and practical. This article is a bit long so set aside 10 minutes, kick back somewhere comfortable and take in what you’re about to read.

First, we ought to understand the social-psychology of cocky/funny. The cocky part is designed to give the man some artificial value of being cool. The funny part is to make people laugh and take the edge of by injecting humor into the social interaction.

It’s taking a line that a proverbial “Cool guy” would utter and giving it to someone who may not be as cool. The problem is that the line is lost in translation. It’s common knowledge that most communication is non-verbal, and teaching the verbal part of a concept to someone while leaving out the non-verbal is a recipe for disaster.

In the long run, a cocky line cannot provide the illusion of confidence for someone who comes across otherwise. It may even buy him a few minutes sometimes, but the illusion will be shattered. Therefore, it’s more effective to polish one’s overall approach.

So let’s dissect the problems and look to replace them with solutions:

* Problem 1: Usage of Cocky Funny

The way cocky/funny is taught is to borderline insult a woman with a humorous touch to take the edge off of the insult. These are lines that can easily be misconstrued as an insult, and often, they are perceived as insults. When that happens, the cocky/funny advocates reply with, “Well, she just doesn’t have a sense of humor.”

Then again, maybe she just does not like being insulted. Below are some examples of the cocky funny lines taught:

“Nice shoes, did you buy them new?”

“Nice Outfit. Where is the rest of it?”

“You just want me, like all the other women.”

“Nice portrait. Have you considered wearing more makeup?”

(Ok, I made that last one up.)

Granted, you could approach 10 women, and 2 of them may respond favorably to such an advance. However, why would you handicap yourself like that? Why not use something that could effectively elicit a favorable reply from 8 out of 10?

So should you throw away cock/funny? No. Learn to tease and have fun. Some of the guys started calling it “Playful & Confident” a few years back and that’s a good motto. Being playful and confident is neither insulting and nor is it obnoxious.

I have articles on how to tease and flirt and you may want to look at those at some point. Explaining how to use humor in the interaction requires an entire article on its own. For the time being, remember to be playful and confident. Playful, in essence, is being childlike. It’s learning to have fun and play.

Hence, instead of trying to show you’re cool by the throwing out lines, you’re best served by displaying charm and confidence. You can TEASE and be fun, but the cocky-insult lines will have you shooting yourself more often than not.

* Problem 2: Timing of Cocky funny

When and where do you use cocky/funny as it’s taught? What demographic of women do you think it’s best suitable for? Have you ever asked yourself this question?

Well, the kind of cocky/funny that has traditionally been taught is effective on club skanks and strippers. You should also note that sometimes these observations of these concepts were made in strip bars and night clubs.

Cocky insult lines can work in those specific environments for two reasons:

A. The social matrix of the environment.

In a strip bar, for example, most men have zero value. Normally, the average guy in a strip bar is deemed by the stripper as a pathetic f*cking loser paying cash to see naked women flaunt their tits and ass. The borderline insulting comments are designed to somewhat reverse that dynamic or at least, to level the playing field. Telling a stripper, “You just want to use me for my body” can be funny given the circumstances, because it’s drawing on the reverse premise of what is going on.

Making the same remark to a girl in a library or a bookstore has no context and can backfire very easily.

B. Insecure women

Despite how they come across, these types of women are extremely insecure on many levels. Hence, a borderline insulting cocky/funny comment exposes their insecurity while reinforcing what they already subconsciously believe about themselves to begin with.

Lesson for you to take away: Look at the environment you’re in and the type of women you are interacting with. If you find yourself in a strip bar, or talking to some platinum haired blonde with 55 pounds of makeup and collagen enhanced lips at a nightclub, then the cocky Insult lines actually do seem to get a reaction. Any reaction is better than having someone ignore you.

On the other hand, if you’re approaching a different archetype, then cut down the insult lines, use more normal humor and joke with her as though you’ve known her for years.

* Problem 3: Persona/delivery of cocky/funny

Another common issues arises from the personality of men who are attempting to be cocky/funny. Men are taught to be serious. They are explicitly told that, “The woman shouldn’t be able to tell whether you’re joking or being serious.” They are also taught to use a very serious monotone delivery rivaling Frankenstein with the charisma of a doorknob.

Once again, bullshit advice. Guys who use cocky/funny effectively & consistently have a persona that is CONGRUENT with that type of humor. A character you can reference for this would be Vince Vaughn’s character, Trent, in the movie “Swingers.” (Actually, you can watch any number of Vince Vaughn movies (Wedding Crashers, The Breakup,) and you’d see the same effect, but let’s stick with Trent from Swingers.)

Trent’s persona could be conceived as a cocky/funny type. He gets away with saying a lot of things that other men would not. WHY? Because people see him and think, “Awww, that’s just Trent. He is just goofing around as usual, having a good time.” No one is insulted by Trent because people take him as someone having fun even if he is coming across as cocky. “Hey man, that’s just big T, Trent! He is having fun! You can’t get upset at Big T.”

Most guys seeking dating advice don’t have a persona/attitude like Trent, or they wouldn’t be seeking dating advice to begin with. Hence, just because Trent’s lines work for him does not translate into those lines working for another man who doesn’t have the same attitude.

A guy could be a studious, intellectual type who is not very gregarious. It doesn’t mean he cannot be successful in attracting women. However, for that guy to use the same approach as someone like “Trent” is a recipe for disaster as mentioned before. Is this starting to make sense?

If you enjoy teasing, and like doing so often, then build (or Develop) a persona that is consistent and congruent with that delivery. You must develop the PERSONA first and then the lines can be used in accordance. Cocky lines with the wrong persona amount to poor interactions.

If you still seek other visual examples, then there is one blockbuster film you’ll have to watch a 2nd time. Perhaps the greatest personification of a “Cocky Funny” personality is portrayed by Robert Downey Jr. in the movie, “Iron man”. His attitude through out the film depicts his extremely cocky demeanor, and yet he manages to come across as likable. This is key. People are not insulted by him because at the end of the day, it’s all a joke and he is HAVING FUN! The people interacting with him can clearly distinguish that he is just a big kid having fun. Is he being a cocky smart ass? Yeah, but it’s all in good spirit.

End of Part 1. Part 2 will come tomorrow.

[tonatiuh8]

Great article my man. I've also was having trouble with cocky/funny but manage to switch up by just teasing the girl and been playful with them.

And YES COCKY/ FUNNY sucks period.

[Doggy]

I am half agree, I think that cocky funny is cool, when is done by cocky and funny people, It is like most of puas method, that work for deangelo and some cool people, not to all mortal mens.

[daredevil15]

im a serious type,but cocky funny still works for me.It defends upon the timing of using it...just don,t be over confident......

[Ray Casanova]

ive always been the cocky funny guy, all my life. i naturally did this, the reason people can't pull it off is because they're not being themselves.

[Nicholas Fahrenheit]

Cocky funny is gabage, nobody can do it right, and those that 'claim' to just come across as arrogant little sh*ts. You dont need to put a persona on for this stuff, you dont need to change who you are and use some rubbish technique that some middle age dude is claiming gets his dick wet. Nobodies techniques matter to anyone but themselves. Be yourself, and have fun, the world will sort the rest out.

[Hector M.]

On what my man Nick Fahrenheit said:

Cocky Funny is pure, and utter garbage.

What many fail to realize is that, for most, being cocky/funny, is NOT BEING THEMSELVES. It's not natural to act like a cocky jerk, let alone manage to convey humor while acting as one. Both Confidence and Humour come from within, not from a scripted routine or taught principle.

The thing with Cocky/Funny, is that it's not about ACTING a certain cockily funny way, but bringing out your OWN PERSONALITY, and using your own style of being to be who you are.

It's the same with canned routines. It's the same with scripts. It's the same with C&F. If it's not YOU, then it does not work.

The first thing to do is KNOW WHO YOU ARE, THEN, look into C&F.

Dont wear a mask. Be strong, and have enough faith to shine who you are. The C&F/Calibrating/Vibe/Etc will come naturally

[NickH]

I dont know how I feel about this. Myself, I have a sarcastic personality, so sometimes it isnt forced, but I am not a sarcastic douchebag. My sarcasm comes at deserving times, its hard to explain, but I dont go out of my way and do it just to do it.

[the_ki]

Blindly using advice that don't work for you for a long period of time is just plain destructive. Someone on the internet has imposed rules on you that are as good as false . Clearly not being your style=false.

No tactic works for everyone Yo! wakey wakey! That Is why guys work on themselves rather than learn tactics. (Though I probably am preach to the converted)

I use mystery method (the new stuff). That doesn't mean Ill say and do something that doesn't work for me for a long period of time because someone on the internet told me to. Rather I'm finding ways that work for me to pull girls into my reality first.

[Nicholas Fahrenheit]

Dude, yeh you've got it right. What these manuals and ebooks give is a rough outline that a single guy has had success with, I dont think they intend you to use it to the letter. Its a guide, that you mold to yourself and try and make it work. Thered be no point using a system thats foreign to you, just because on the internet it 'works'

[Hector M.]

To add, I think the simplest of solutions is to reframe Cocky & Funny (Note: Cocky and Funny is USELESS as of right now. USELESS. Dave "Eben Pagan" DeAngelo (A guy I'd rather not listen to anymore) made a temporary "outlet" from "Cocky & Funny".

Disgusting, upon reflection. It killed most of us. It certainly killed me.

So, reframe as: Playful and Confident.


Playful and Confident.

Relaxed, joking, and fun, but stout, forthright, and ballsy.

No insults, just small lighthearted jokes. But, also remember to compliment.

The critical flaw with C&F was the idea of "Always insulting" women. Not good. Women need compliments. Just dont bury them with UNDESERVED compliments.

...ah fuck it. The hell do we know?
Might as well just go out there and see what happens.

[the_ki]

Ive seen a natural who is learning pua that gives girls invisible hard-ons with his cocky and funny. I have the faith in the internet rhetoric

role reversal, sexual tension.

One thing thats as clear as day to me now is the importance of not DLV'ing yourself by showing poor social skills. This is stage two for some guys (ki the seducer)

Stage one is balls to the walls. Ego protection will cause you to lock up

[rjmlvv]

I'm a fan of David DeAngelo's material. And David had a guest in one of his seminars, a woman. You can be cocky/funny, as long as you put your heart in it. The playful/confident bit is ok.
I read a lot of c/f -lines, and many of them just AREN'T me. So I could never put my heart in it. So I don't use them.
Make sure you try it a couple of times, if it doesn't feel right. Then disuse it.
There's one thing that I've learned: women like men who are playful (funny), women like men who are confident (cocky). Women do NOT like to be insulted (arrogance).
Many of my friends are amazed at what I can get away with, I say pretty rediculous stuff sometimes. But I always make sure that the women can clearly see that I'm joking.
I don't want to hang around women who act all hurt and are suffering because they are overly sensitive or think they're big shit. I want a playful woman who will play along and try to outsmart me. THEN it's ON. And you feel it.
These are the women that are kick-back, relaxed, and whose ego's aren't in the way of having fun.
A lot of people take themselves too friggin' serious. And if they think they're too "smart, good-looking, tough, etc", then they're missing out on a lot of fun.

[rjmlvv]

And if some woman goes off on you, because you made a remark, and you feel that you too have overstepped a boundary, yeah, you can appologize. Because you FEEL it is necesary.
If she starts over reacting, and you can tell that, you can feel that. Then start being OVER appologetic, and then make a straight face and say:"well, you're no fun to play with"... or some other retarded shit. And just walk away.

[Nick Krygier]

Originally Posted by rjmlvv

And if some woman goes off on you, because you made a remark, and you feel that you too have overstepped a boundary, yeah, you can appologize. Because you FEEL it is necesary.
If she starts over reacting, and you can tell that, you can feel that. Then start being OVER appologetic, and then make a straight face and say:"well, you're no fun to play with"... or some other retarded shit. And just walk away.

Completely agree