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10-07-2007
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How to make out
I have been to several parties on campus the last two weeks. I will find a HB, get IOI's, kino escalate, and all i do is get a peck on the lips. It's happened to me 3 times. If she pecks me on the lips, is it automatic that i could make out with her?
I am progressing greatly, i would have never had this problem six months ago. I just need to get over these little humps on my way to glory.
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10-07-2007
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generally your not quite there yet. Just keep going, maybe what you lack is strong sexual tension. Remember shes just playing cat string with you, you need to play back.
Here is my K-close routine.
I call it the Spiderman-kissclose
So first you disscuss some shit about her being a bad dancer or you dancing salsa etc somthing that has to do with dance. Stand up slide back a bit and hold your hand out for her to join you. Spin her in so she has her back pressed against your chest. Relax and start some extreamly heavy kino dancing. Whisper in her ears stuff about how 'shes not that bad, infact shes pretty good and is looking really sexy' then nibble her ears. Here we go:
1. Move your hands up her sides and above her breasts (sometimes i get away with going over the boobs) your still nibbling her ears or somthing and you bring one hand and gently wrap it around her throat as if your going to strangle her, not too hard just gentle like. Now keep stroking upwards towards her chin and when you get to her chin get a good hold on it and lift her head up so shes almost looking backwards while you come in from behind and make out with her spiderman style.  Best kiss shes had in a long time. Its extreamly sexy. I get the 'wow' in short breaths after that.
Go and try it. I got it from mixing the spider-man kiss with some story a girl tells in the movie Death Proof.
Its amazing.
Heres a tip, while one hand is around her throat wrap the other around the back of her neck and up to her hair and pull on that while you do the whole chin move.
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10-07-2007
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I'ma go out on a limb and say that, when you go in for that kiss, you're a TAD bit stunted and shocked that it's happening. Therefore, you dont feel it to be natural yet.
Be the leader in the situation. Chikito outlined the procedure for you. Get her all steamed and hot.
One thing's apparent though, you need more practice.
Keep getting those taps, then work them to full make outs, then keep at it until a bedroom is available.
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10-07-2007
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Location: Edmonton, AB
Age: 26
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Do the 90-10 rule. Go in to her face 90%, and wait for her to do the other 10%.
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10-07-2007
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Age: 30
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Laugh at her. As soon as she's backed up, put on your best What-the-Hell-is-Wrong-With-You face, and laugh her.
Hi-Jinks: Two.
HB: Two?
Hi-Jinks: Yeah. Two. Out of ten. That's how bad that just was. You're a terrible kisser.
Then turn to talk to someone else. Don't let it phase you. When you've let her build up a bit of cat-string steam, turn back to her.
Hi-Jinks: Alright, you only get two more chances.
Go for the second kiss. It should be better this time. Otherwise, rinse and repeat.
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10-08-2007
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Originally Posted by Monkey
Laugh at her. As soon as she's backed up, put on your best What-the-Hell-is-Wrong-With-You face, and laugh her.
Hi-Jinks: Two.
HB: Two?
Hi-Jinks: Yeah. Two. Out of ten. That's how bad that just was. You're a terrible kisser.
Then turn to talk to someone else. Don't let it phase you. When you've let her build up a bit of cat-string steam, turn back to her.
Hi-Jinks: Alright, you only get two more chances.
Go for the second kiss. It should be better this time. Otherwise, rinse and repeat.
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I like this
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10-08-2007
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Girls also love when you do the following:
1. Suck her bottom or top lip, and pull back
2. Bite gently on the lip
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10-08-2007
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Originally Posted by C-DUB
Do the 90-10 rule. Go in to her face 90%, and wait for her to do the other 10%.
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Haha you been watching Hitch?
Chiki's idea is good. Ear nibbling is golden. Even just talking in a low voice (makes it bassier and reverberates more) right in her ear will give her chills. I know it does for me and I know girls love it. If your not in a situation where you can be doing the dancing stuff as Chik said, and it's at a party, after fluff chat, suggest a massage, tell her you give a mad head/shoulder massage. What I like to do is give a nice shoulder massage with occasional brief sliding hands to the side of the breasts, gently around the neck, and running your fingers slowly, all the way down her spine. By keeping to a normal massage and having these as surprises, it'l build the tension so much more than a full-blown hands all over the place massage. Then a light kiss on the back of the neck. She'l be buttered up now to turn her around and kiss her, or do the spiderman.
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10-08-2007
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Originally Posted by Difference
Haha you been watching Hitch?
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Yeah.
But the 90-10 is really the only way I really know if she will kiss me or not, otherwise I back up a bit and then try again later. Maybe more practice in field and I will learn calibration.
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10-08-2007
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I posted this on the old forum, hope it helps you:
1. Move the target to another location. You want her to be away from your friends, in a place (different room at a party, upstairs/downstairs bar, etc...) where you are the only person she knows. This creates a comfort zone for her plus all the attention will be focused on you
2. While keeping the convo going intensify the kino and look for cues from her. The best way to do this is when sitting down confortably on a sofa. I usually start by holding my arm around her waist, then move it to her legs, where I caress her lightly, and then stick my hand between her legs around knee level.
3. By now, you should be getting some IOIs back. Ideally you would want her to caress you back, or hold your hand. Then, you let the conversation die (DON T do it if she just asked you a question though, you ll look creepy) and look her straight in the eyes with a romantic half-smile (don't smile too much but don't look to serious either or you might scare her) while moving your face towards hers. You can wait 3 seconds of eye contact to make your move, but usually by this time the deal is sealed and so...
4. Go for it!
So... 1)ISOLATION
2)COMFORT BUILDING
3)BUILD SEXUAL TENSION (KINO)
4)ALPHA MOVE (THE KISS)
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10-08-2007
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another cool technique is when you're making out breathe into her like you would for CPR and she'll breathe back. In essence you're just sharing the same breath but it's a total head rush.
The one thing is most girls haven't done this before and don't know about it so they'll be totall awestruck
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10-08-2007
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Originally Posted by pokernumen
another cool technique is when you're making out breathe into her like you would for CPR and she'll breathe back. In essence you're just sharing the same breath but it's a total head rush.
The one thing is most girls haven't done this before and don't know about it so they'll be totall awestruck
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I am pretty sure that is dangerous man, like forcing air into their lungs when they don't need it? I may be wrong though.
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10-09-2007
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For that spider man move, it sounds like you have to be taller than the HB? Am I right?
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I am pretty sure that is dangerous man, like forcing air into their lungs when they don't need it? I may be wrong though.
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haha.. you don't force it man. you're not actually performing CPR here. i was just likening it to that. you breathe lightly and share the breath. if you've ever made out under water you do this without thinking.
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10-09-2007
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Originally Posted by Rye
For that spider man move, it sounds like you have to be taller than the HB? Am I right?
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Yeah kinda it helps if you are. Otherwise it doesnt matter its equally as sexy if you pull their head to the right/left instead of up and make out with her sideways. You can always do the Spiderman k-close on a bed though. Lie her down and start giving her a shoulder massage and lean over and make out with her. The possiblities are endless, use you imagination.
The main part of that routine is the hands around her throat, the mix of danger/violence and a strange sexy type of strong sexuality makes it soo much better for them.
Here is another, this one is more of a seduction stage routine as in you should already be on the make-out stage.
Pick her up (if you can otherwise just push) and slam her against the wall. Not too hard but not soft either, just a tiny little bit of a Umpff. Or you can wrap your arms around her and cushion it with your hands. Eitherway slam her up against a wall..Hover you mouth slightly over hers hot and heavy breathing insues. Go in for small little kisses on her lips. Then run your hand up her (be creative if you want here) and stop when you get to her neck. You can hold it front on as if your strangling her and make out with her. It drives them crazy if you put a little pressure (calibrate guys calibrate! Dont do this if shes a virgin!) or you can hol the side of her face, her neck and cheek if your hands are big enough. And push her slightly away from your face so she so the left edge of lips are directly infront of the right edge of her lips or vice versa. Eitherway its unconventional and unpredictable = wet loins for your benefit.
Hahah if you havent realised yet, I like being creative in this part of the sarge  I think thats what gets them begging back for more. Lots of guys can fuck. Fewer can fuck really well (most PUA's can) but its even more rare when they can kiss like a mother fucker. These things in night clubs is (i think for me) what seals the deal. This sort of kissing is so good it eliminates alot of the LMR cus her horneyness just does the job for you.
Key points:
1. Drive her crazy let her taste some then pull away. You need to frustrate her a little..but dont be crule!
2. Spontanious and new, i dont care how fucking stupid it seems when you and her are really getting it on it wont matter if your lips are alighned right or whatever, you two should not care. If somthing awakward happens dont let it phase you dont break state and she wont bring it up either, just a little smile or somthing can be enough for her to break state. (its like quiffs LOL dont say anything and the awakwarness is quickly replaced by the sex)
3. Creativity is all you need.
4. Practice and practice. Ure a PUA for fucks sake if anything your getting enough practice. You cant 'master' kissing and sex, each person is different and so are their bodys. Its a endless quest to become the master, even though technically not possible its going to up your game alot.
Whee Got carried away! 
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