A real discussion about openers

[tonatiuh8]

I'll start by saying that openers for me seem fake. They are a barrier your trying to put up so that she will get distracted and not see your true intension- by the way if you think they don't know your hitting on them...YOUR WRONG- so you may seem like a pussy instead of the BALLSY guy that you are. But also openers to me seem like a way to just create an opening so that she can get to know the real you and not the guy that she was creating in her mind based on your first impression. But also to me that is not the kind of girl I want, I don't want a girl that will close her mind to some one so rapidly based on a clumsy start. But what if she already had some guys come up to her and I just happen to be the guy that she blew off, is her right to blow me off.

There are so many factors that are out of my control that I'm only left with what I say and feel at that moment. Do I complement her on her wardrobe? Or how about I ask about her book? Maybe I just tell her that I wanted to get to now her? To me the best openers are the things that pop in to your mind when you see her. And if nothing pop up I go with my back up and it goes a little something like this " Excuse, this may be a bit random but I saw and I just had to come and meet you...HI I'm Tona". Is either go hard or go home. None of this stuff of trying to maneuver may way to meet her, if it happen great if not then it's great also cause I know I just made that girl's day since I showed that she was SOMEONE, not because I gave her a compliment but because I felt and meant every word that came out of my mouth.

This something I learned from DANIEL and SEAN that I just had to go balls out or go home.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT OPENERS?

You can add what I think or post your own opinion.


GENTLEMEN DISCUSSION STARED.

[Sloaner92]

You're absolutely right, it's all about having the balls to do it. Go up, say what's on your mind, and don't give it a second thought (give it a little thought to make sure it's not completely stupid/ridiculous/makes you look like a douche, but don't overthink).

My advice for everyone is to practice conversation if you aren't good at it. Get a friend to help you practice having conversations. If you have any female friends, ask them to help you practice. You never know, something good could come from that.

[Elyts]

I would say that im very comfortable with the opposite sex, but one of my weaknesses is that I'm very bad at STARTING the conversation...once I'm in, I'm in haha and then I have no problems and I just find myself naturally comfortable with the opposite sex, so its all good...But because of this, I am really fond of openers, and I find that it really helps to get my "ball rolling." I think that opinion openers are a good way to get to know the person, and by simply asking them if they want to take the bus or walk you can learn so much about them, and that is what i truly enjoy...

[daredevil15]

Before trowing your opener the best thing is you should know how to make a good approach.If you are going to make a direct approach or in direct approach.For example you make a direct approach without knowing the basic element of it.In t6hat case there is a big possibility to ruin your game.However, if you are versatile of making an approach the best opener is to make her curious,something that will stimulate her emotions.You may use also open loop as your opener which is 100% effective..

[tonatiuh8]

Yo Elyts you have no problem staring the conversation. Is all in your head brother. Thats exactly what I felt and said to myself- I'm comfortable with the women talking to me, but is just that this AA thing is killing me- Then after much soul searching and some really good mentoring I realized that I had to be the MAN that I am, SACK THE FUCK UP, and just say exactly what was on my mind. Plus I learn to befriend AA and push me forward.

So my man you know exactly how to start a conversation just sack up and make that girl happy.

Now I know at first it may be difficult so sure use your opinion opener, but nothing beats a TRUE conversation stared then some pick up line.

[NickH]

I've never been the one for something canned, but everyone can do whatever they want.

Like yesterday, I went to a little party, new a few of my fraternity brothers there and a couple of my friends. Not many girls, so we drank, played beer pong, and shot the shit the whole night. Alot of my friends left by now and it was just me and two of my friends left. We won in beer pong so I went up stairs to piss....as I walk out of the bathroom to go downstairs I guess a girl was going down too behind me and I didnt see her, so I opened the door to the basement and closed it right in her face as I was going down stairs. lol. She opens it and was like...

her: wow you just really slammed the door in my face
me: really?
her: yeah!
me: wow I am so sorry, I really didnt even see you there
her: thats okay, I guess it happens
me: yeah but things like that usually happen to me so I get used to it
(share a laugh)
me: but honesty I was distracted, my dad keeps calling and texting me asking me stupid questions and its all late
her: omg, my dad does the same thing, its so annoying
me: yeah check out the messages (grabs blackberry from pocket, and shows hers)
her: (laughs) I have the same phone but in pink
(go on to talk about the phone or w/e and then somehow I mention that one of my friends is my fraternity brother and that opens up a new thread about that and her being in a sorority...it went on for a while until I was forced back onto the pong table)

I also didnt introduce myself until I left to go play lol

So I guess you can say my opener was slamming the basement door in her face, and it worked out fine. Sucks she had a boyfriend because in the middle of the conversation he came up and was like whats up and she says ecstatically "hey I just made a new friend" and her bf goes "thats cool" in like a sarcastic tone and just walks away haha. It was funny, but I had a fun night, met another girl that my fraternity brother is trying to hook up with, so she is off limits.

[Elyts]

actually, i find there is nothing sexier than bringing a big "dating for dummies" book, or having some pickup lines sent to ur phone and then intentionally showing the girl that u are using a pick up line, like as a joke haha its pretty priceless, and it usually gets a good laugh too...i find its a good convo starter...

but tona youre right, like if im comfortable talking to her in general, what makes the beginning so different? i mean its still her, and its DEF still me...hah