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09-25-2007
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Knight of the Round Table
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Do you have a questions about opening?
Whats up guys,
So I'm my travels I have come across the magical question being asked more than anyother.... "whats a good opener" now the following is going to be more of a rant but I fell i need to just throw it out there, and i will keep it short i promise.
First of all, the most popular, the opinion opener, which anyone who has read the mystery method and the game or watched vh1 is all about. But this is not the only way of doing things.
What I want to say and I'm sure every other guy and girl on here will agree that lots of others work. If direct openers work for you for example, run it. If you like opinion openers do them.
There are many ways to start a conversation, don't get set in your ways because you have heard it it the way to go. Try new ones or ways out for yourself and make your own successes.
Forums, books, and an opener that the BigB uses, isn't the only way to "open". What you read and learn about is the overall outline. Think of this classic quote....
"Learning about PUA is like learning how to cook, you will read and learn about how to cook, NOT WHAT TO COOK"
B
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09-25-2007
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Almost all of my openers i use are chick crack.. generally i avoid opinions so instead i get them to talk about themselves and immediately start trying to qualify themselves to me. If they're wearing an ACDC shirt i get them to talk about music. If they're wearing a Raiders jersey i don't let them hear the end of it (i'm from san diego). if they have a coach purse i make fun of them for being a conformist or for having a fake, whether it is or not.. etc.. lmk your opinion on this man. chick crack openers are by far the best ones to use because you immediately catch their interest
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09-25-2007
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Knight of the Round Table
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Yea poke, like i was saying, if your "chick crack" openers work for you run them. Do what you find works best.
What I am saying is to try out all the different kinds of openers, don't get stuck in your ways. You will find that some styles suck, but others work quite well!
explore your options, there are many.
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09-26-2007
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I've found it easiest to consult mags like National Enquirer or any latest gossip as an opener.
I kno, NE is full of shit most of the time, and is made to exaggerate, but hey, women love to stock up all that info, and using it as an opinion opener might do wonders.
Kind of harder with High School girls and College freshmen, as they are still into the talk about "Did you hear about what Dave did to the girl from Longpole Hall?", and stuff like that. In that case, find out the stories about people, and use that to your advantage in college.
Older women are more prone to NE talk. NE, TMZ, People magazine, basically anything most men HATE with a passion, and women LOVE to blab about, can be used as an opener.
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09-26-2007
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Location: Atlanta
Age: 28
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Magazine opener isn't bad for "brainless beauties"
I think it completely depends on the context of the situation. If you're in a bookstore/coffee shop-- ask about the book she's reading.
I'm a fan of "Hi, my name is..."
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09-26-2007
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Location: New Jersey, Planet Earth
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Plain and simple...
When I tell guys to just say hi, they look at me like I just told them to go say something like, "nice shoes, wanna fuck?"
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09-27-2007
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Location: Quebec City, QC
Age: 28
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A Type of opener that doesn't get enough attention are challenge openers.
It seems like every newbie is asking girls for an opinion.
I'm trying to track down the article I read, but Style had a nice collection of challenge openers.
"Ex. Hey, maybe you all can help us out. Well you remember the Village People right? There was an Indian Chief, a Construction Worker, A Cowboy, and an Army man. But we can't seem to think of the last one..."
Answer: There's actually 6 Village people (The Cop, and Biker)
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09-27-2007
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Location: New York Cittyyyyy
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Hahaha, awesome.
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09-27-2007
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Location: Edmonton, AB
Age: 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Holden
A Type of opener that doesn't get enough attention are challenge openers.
It seems like every newbie is asking girls for an opinion.
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I like this direction you're going with. Definitely, let's give these girls a challenge that they can't turn down. 
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10-06-2007
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Neg openers work quite well for me on hb8's and up.
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10-06-2007
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I hate openers. Canned crap only works on the weak.
If you want to get the good ones (for me, this is the intelligent, beautiful brunettes), you have to be original.
I usually just say "Hi". I cannot tell you how many have argued this opener on the old forum and among my friends. They call me "stupid for not being prepared". Then I make out with their target. Eat that.
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10-06-2007
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That's right Leo. And that brings up another point.
with negs, make sure the girl knows her shit, and has some level of confidence. Otherwise, the neg will turn into insult = No pussy for you.
Therefore, HB8-10s eat it up, while 6s and 7s will be hurt.
Know your enemy, and use each effective strategy wisely.
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10-15-2007
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I just kino all over there face ;D~!!!
But really there are so many situations for everyone, mine is that I'm always with a group of people and meet people like that... I guess its an instant opener since you already within the group. But I am a big fan of "Hi".
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