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"[women] derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed"

I got this quote from one of Chikito's recent threads (http://pualifestyle.com/forum/showth...792.html?t=792) and i agree with the message 100%. When sex is in the air women like to play their "game", which is to resist your advances, pretend they re not easy, etc...
most of the girls that i ve hooked up with at some point said "NO", even though they ended up giving it up anyways.

my usual approach to get over LMR is to bulldoze my way past it, by taking a girl to a level of excitement where she can't object anymore. In good PUA fashion, every thing that i say to her is in the form of a statement, not a question (ie "i wanna be inside of you" instead of "do you want me inside of you?") so she certainly feels overwhelmed.

So, from a PUA point of view, getting laid after being initially told "no" is considered a success. But from a legal point of view, it' s considered... RAPE?
at least in the US, it is so it got me thinking... should i ask the girl for a clear verbal acceptance before i proceed any further? sure, some girls end up saying "fuck me" but with others they either initiate (oral) sex or let me fuck them without adding another word.

could this possibly lead to legal issues in case a girl gets a serious case of buyer's remorse, or she later gets really mad at me for some reason?

overall what do you guys and gals think? is this something that you ever worried about?
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haha.. watch animal house... or was it porky's... idk... but he explicitly tells her that she's intoxicated and that she is giving her consent under the influence.. quite funny
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well if she's under the influence then yea the gay-ass law considers it illegal ..even if its just one fucking sip. this is somthin i just found out last month in my advanced health class.
anyways, most likely i'd say dont wory abt it as long as she really says no and u fucking force her to do it. just chill man, no girls gonna put u in jail for giving her multiple orgasms that she enjoyd all night.
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just chill man, no girls gonna put u in jail for giving her multiple orgasms that she enjoyd all night.
i wasn't really worried, just looking at it from a "what if" perspective

also, i ve witnessed some extreme reactions from girls who WANTED to get back with me cuz they enjoyed it so much, yet i didn't want nothing to do wit them anymore, so anything is possible
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well i dount it man. 1 tip i can giv u is that the less u worry/think abt it, the less likely it will happen. anyways, in case of "what if" i'd just claim in court that u were drunk as well, or better yet just leave it upto a lawyer if anythin like that happens ..lawyers r freakin good at getin u outa shyt like this, tell the lawyer that u had some drinx as well
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Hahah this shit will never happen to me, get good in bed and even if you were raping them theill forget all about it. hehehe.

No but seriously look up some of stevie p's white tiger tantra.
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or she later gets really mad at me for some reason?
haha from the response i get i understand i didn't make myself clear...

my performance in bed is not what i was referring about. i m doing great in that department .

I mean girls getting mad for: realizing she has been "played"
you never return her calls/txts
she sees you hooking up wit other girls

the actual "legal" situation that i was talkin about in my first post never actually happened to me, i was just reading a discussion on the internet about "when a girl says no, it means NO" (on a non-PUA site) and the general responses from both guys and girls was "ya, if she says no, you can't push it any farther" and then someone mentioned rape and it got me all paranoid
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